I tied Palomars back then, and they used to pop it off a lot. I had some Japanese friends on tour and stuff, in Kota, and some of the guys that fish, they know a lot of technical stuff, and probably from Japan. And to make a long story short, I get a lot of Japanese catalogs and magazines, and there's a lot guys back east that still use the Palomar.
VanDam's one of them. He's one of the biggest guys that still use the Palomar on fluorocarbon. Four or five times I've taken his baits and snapped them off just to show him, throughout the year, since I know him well.
I would take his crankbait and just pop it. And then I'll tie my knot on. And it's heavy line, you feel it, it's like 16 or something, and I'll just pop it off.
And I'll tie mine on and actually kind of do the same thing and it doesn't break, and I'll do it four or five times, and then I'll give it to him. And he still does it, he still does the Palomar. I've never seen a Palomar knot in a Japanese brochure or magazine ever. They don't even talk about it. They have all these knots.
They'll have a whole page of knots, like, eight, ten different knots, how to do them. Even two pages, I've never seen them illustrate a Palomar. That's how against it they are. But, you're losing 10 percent to 20 percent of knot strength, and I can show you guys. I'll be here as long as you guy want, I don't have to fly out till tomorrow.